November 16, 2019

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CC 148: And Everything Changes…

CC 148: And Everything Changes…

The Statement on Objections rocks the church to its core, so naturally the revelation regarding personnel changes is what’s in the D&C.

 

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F. Henry Edwards

Duane Couey

Aleah Koury

 

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November 9, 2019

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CC 146-147: Look to the Future

CC 146-147: Look to the Future

The church shifts its focus from cultural anecdata from the past to hard truths for the future. Cracks in the church foundation begin to appear.

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Cecil B Ettinger

The Conference of Restored Elders

Duane Couey

Arthur Oakman

Russell Ralston

William Timms

 

November 2, 2019

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CC 145: It is my will…

CC 145: It is my will…

Pres. W. Wallace Smith flexes his prophetic muscles by doing a ton of staffing changes. On the surface, nothing is changing. In reality, he’s setting up the church to do things like include non-white members in their leadership.

 

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Maurice Draper

Roy Cheville

Charles Neff

Outreach International

The splinter group that broke off circa 2005

Comments on Clifford Cole

 

October 26, 2019

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CC 143-144: Goodbye and Hello, Pres. Smith

CC 143-144: Goodbye and Hello, President Smith

It’s the end of an era as President Israel “Dutch” Smith passes away in a car crash. President W. Wallace Smith is named successor, which makes sense since he’s essentially been acting president for a solid six years.

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Historical Amnesia: Corporate Identity and Collective Memory

Nauvoo in the 1960s

October 19, 2019

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CC 142: A series of bad looks for Dutch

CC 142: A series of bad looks for Dutch

Prophet-President Israel “Dutch” Smith starts making tours of the Pacific and Europe to meet the members of his church. Or, from another perspective, he uses the church as an excuse to travel, get fancy gadgets installed on his car, and watch baseball. It’s all a matter of perspective.

 

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Gentle Monarch, by Norma Derry Hiles

October 12, 2019

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CC 140-141: Zion is in your heart (possibly)

Zion is in your heart (possibly)

Israel “Dutch” Smith spends his first years of his presidency at his wife’s bedside, with breaks to write correspondence and delegate decisions to F. Henry Edwards, his nephew-in-law.

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Roscoe Davey

Maurice L Draper

Reed Holmes

A Gentle Monarch

October 5, 2019

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CC 139: RIP, Fred M

CC 139: RIP, Fred M

The post-WWII era ushers in an era of economic growth for the church, and a grumpy Fred M., a prophet who failed to write down his succession plan. Israel “Dutch” Smith becomes prophet-president, soon thereafter giving his first revelation.

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John Garver

Frank Henry Edwards

Fred M.’s funeral bulletin

September 21, 2019

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CC 138: Hello, Israel.

CC 138: Hello, Israel

The revelation is just another staffing change from Fred M. The reality is that nobody likes him and his closest confidantes are quitting. Somehow, despite a lifetime of being treated as Lesser, little brother Israel A. Smith steps in to start the process in becoming the next prophet-president.

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L.F.P. Curry

Gentle Monarch: The Presidency of Israel A. Smith

Bonus Episode – Russell M. Nelson tells us the November policy was motivated by love. He’s wrong.

September 14, 2019

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CC 137: Even More Depressioning

CC 137: Even More Depressioning

Fred. M’s vision of a literal, physical Zion slips even further from his grasp. Church membership is falling, money is tighter than tight, and WWII is just around the corner.

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1933 Saints Herald

1937 Saints Herald

C. George Mesley

Arthur Oakman

Charles Hield

Mr. Hield looks pretty fly

 

 

 

September 7, 2019

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CC 136: Oops! A Great Depression

CC 136: Oops! A Great Depression

Fred M. has gained complete control of the Church, for both good and bad. Great strides are made in the quest for a physical Zion on earth! And he completely misses how overspent the coffers are, and then a Great Depression wipes out what little resources were left.

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Supreme Directional Control

F. Henry Edwards

The Graceland College Book of Knowledge, by David Goehner

August 31, 2019

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CC 135: Too Many Controversies

CC 135: Too Many Controversies

Brother McGuire stages a coup, sort of, with the help of immense amounts of bureaucracy. Fred M. is temporarily ousted from The Saints Herald, only to regain power at the expense of his younger brother, Israel.

 

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Historical Amnesia: Corporate Identity and Collective Memory

General Conference Resolutions

 

August 24, 2019

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CC 134: SDCC #2 – Common Consent

CC 134: SDCC #2 – Common Consent

There’s so much controversy that we just don’t have anything harmonious, except a tiny little background clause in membership transfer that we’ll care about in 1925. Right now it’s 1922-1924, and Fred M’s leadership is tanking the church. Membership? Money? Happiness? It’s bad news bears. Let’s yell about it at general conference!!

 

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Historical Amnesia: Corporate Identity and Collective Memory

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August 17, 2019

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CC 132-133: SDCC #1

Supreme Directional Control Controversy #1

Fred M becomes the prophet, and immediately things go awry. He micromanages, he gives his wife biological specimens, he throws down during general conference. It’s the first of six controversies!!!!

 

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NPR article about surgery on a boat

Historical Amnesia : Corporate Identity and Collective Memory, the doctoral dissertation by Dr. Kenneth Mulliken

Rubber suits during baptism

August 3, 2019

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CC 131: Rest in Peace, JS III

CC 131: Rest in Peace, JS III

An era comes to a close as the son of the prophet passes away of old age. Let’s recap his life and read his final revelation. Suspicious that his final words from God sound a lot like everything Fred M. wants, eh?

 

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Lyman Wight’s recollection of Joseph Smith Jr passing the torch to his son

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July 27, 2019

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CC 130: A Shift in Tone

CC 130: A Shift in Tone

Prophet Emeritus Joseph Smith III suddenly sounds an awful lot like his son, Fred M. It’s shocking how much the divine will of god aligns with the mortal will of Fred M. This does not bode well.

 

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Isaac White

J.W. Wight

Joseph R Lambert

Wiliam M Aylor

“The Apostolic Office”, by Paul Hanson

 

July 20, 2019

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CC 129: Dissent!!!

CC 129: Dissent!!!

R. C. Evans is ousted from the presidency and he is NOT happy about it. He’s replaced with “just another Smith”.

 

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Section 129

Pretender to the Throne: R.  C. Evans and the Problem of Presidential Succession

Bertha Madison Smith

Roger Launius, NASA historian

Elbert A. Smith (a grandson)

J.F. Curtis

July 13, 2019

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CC 128: Zion Is Calling

CC 128: Zion is Calling

Fred M.’s influence grows ever stronger. The church is (slowly and thoughtfully) on the move from rural everywhere to Independence, MO. Saints are advised to migrate only after they’ve secured a job and housing, and to integrate kindly with their neighbors.

 

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Mormon Extermination Order

The Stone Church (historical)

The Stone Church (today)

July 6, 2019

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CC 127: The women (try to) speak

CC 127: The women (try to) speak

The church is in transition from the founders to the next generation. Fred M is named the successor to JS 3.0, money isn’t enough for all the things, and are children or old people more important? Discuss.

 

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Health Ministries in the RLDS Church

Independence Sanatorium

Ennovation Center

Mite to Bishop

Emma Burton is a Queen (her husband’s biography)

June 29, 2019

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CC 126: JS 3.0 has a vision

CC 126: JS 3.0 has a vision

Joseph Smith III has a vision. Happily, it streamlines responsibilities within the church and nominates people to leadership positions. It’s official canon… but not everyone believed so at the time.

 

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List of the Presiding Patriarchs

Richard P Howard

James Caffall

Edmund C Briggs

R.C. Evans

Francis Sheehy

Cornelius Butterworth

John Rushton

 

June 22, 2019

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RLDS vs LDS

RLDS vs LDS

It’s 1901, and the differences between RLDS and LDS are big enough to warrant a full-on comparison. What does the two factions believe? How does the afterlife work? Which is the One True Church?

 

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Community of Christ (formerly RLDS) vs LDS

June 15, 2019

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CC 125: Do What I Say Because I Say So

CC 125: Do What I Say Because I Say So

The church is at a turning point. Should their money go to the newly-begun Graceland College? What about strengthening their existing membership? Missionary work?

Joseph 3.0 solves it all by taking a turn from Common Consent to Divine Revelation, but in a nice way, not an authoritarian dictator sort of way.

 

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Gomer T Griffiths

History of Graceland

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June 1, 2019

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CC 123-124: The Q12 is Fulfilled

CC 123-124: The Q12 is Fulfilled

The Q12 is being fully filled, not just on paper, but in reality. Sure, we could focus on the formality and the procedure. Nope! There’s human drama all over the place. Much for fun to focus on that.

 

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Presiding Patriarchs

E. L. Kelley

William W. Blair

William H Kelley

Isaac White

J. W. Wight

R. C. Evans

 

 

May 25, 2019

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CC 122: Be Kind

CC 122: Be Kind

Be nice to each other!!! For real, just be nice. All this administrative stuff is important, and boring.

 

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Temple Lot Case

Thomas W Smith

Joseph Bazalgette, the sewer architect

The Great Stink

 

 

May 18, 2019

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CC 121: Joseph’s Younger Brother

CC 121: Joseph’s Younger Brother

On the surface, this is all some administration and encouragement for unity and peace. Just underneath, two members of the Q12 flounce away while Joseph Smith 3.0’s younger brother, David, is committed to a hospital for the insane.

 

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David H. Smith, the youngest son of the Prophet and Emma

From Mission to Madness: Last Son of the Mormon Prophet, by Valeen Tippetts Avery

The Sweet Singer of Israel, Deseret News

Northern Illinois Hospital for the Insane

The Temple Lot Court Case(s)

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May 11, 2019

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CC 119: Organize the Reorganization

CC 119: Organize the Reorganization

Sometimes you just have to write out the boring church policies. Slog through it with us. Please? It’s real boring, but we’re interesting. Promise. Oh god, go get a drink and chug.

 

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Alexander H Smith

May 4, 2019

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CC 119: No, we are the OTHER Mormons

CC 119: No, we are the OTHER Mormons

The RLDS drama is so small in comparison to the Brighamite LDS shenanigans of polygamy/theocracy. A few of the leadership flounce away, basically peacefully, a few others pass away. JS 3.0 gently chides the Saints in matters of ceremony.

 

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Wikipedia on The Quorum of the Twelves Apostles

Read about Gurley Jr’s snit with JS 3.0 

RIP, Josiah Ells

 

April 27, 2019

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CC 118: Our Motto is Peace

CC 118: Our Motto is Peace

The church is a bit too scattered, consensus isn’t quite where it needs to be. JSIII calls his flock back together. Time to solidify the base.

 

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JSIII and the Kirtland Temple Lawsuit

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Community of Christ, An Illustrated History

 

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April 20, 2019

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CC 117: Show Up and Be Heard

CC 117: Show Up and Be Heard

RLDS struggles with how to maintain a foundation in Joseph Smith while also distinguishing themselves from Joseph Smith’s actions.

 

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Council of the 12 Apostles

The Changing RLDS Reponse to Mormon Polygamy

Daniel B Rasey

The Oshkosh Northwestern

History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saint: 1844-1872

 

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April 13, 2019

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CC 115-116: Ceasing to Discriminate

CC 115-116: Ceasing to Discriminate

William Marks is called to the presidency. Joseph Smith III ceases to discriminate against “the Negro race” by instituting a separate but equal clause.

 

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Emancipation Proclamation

William Marks

Jim Tankersley interview on Pres. Buchanan

 

April 6, 2019

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Joseph Smith III Comes to the Reorganization

Joseph Smith III Comes to the Reorganization

Drink every time Bryce says “Different!”

Joseph Smith III offers his leadership to the newly-founded RLDS church, and immediately differentiates himself from his father and particularly from Brigham Young. The initial revelation sets up a system of tithing.

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Joseph Smith III acceptance speech is here.

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March 23, 2019

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The Schism Crisis, with John Hamer

The Schism Crisis, with John Hamer

Historian John Hamer of the Community of Christ joins Bryce to talk about the Schism Crisis. Joseph Smith’s assassination left a power void, one that Brigham Young filled for the saints who moved to Utah. The ones who stayed reorganized under Joseph Smith, III on April 6, 1860.

 

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John C. Hamer’s wikipedia page

The Perils of Occam’s Razor

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March 16, 2019

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King Follett Discourse, Not A Eulogy?

King Follett Discourse, Not A Eulogy?

We wrap up the King Follett Discourse and it’s all about the man who passed away, oh wait it’s still mostly about Joseph Smith. We get the source phrases for No Man Knows My History, and Infants on Thrones.

 

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March 9, 2019

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King Follett Discourse, Infinite Regression of Gods

King Follett Discourse, Infinite Regression of Gods

Marie’s inherent belief structure gets tossed to the wind as we delve into the infinite regression of gods. The Plan of Salvation is involved, sort of.

 

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March 2, 2019

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King Follett Discourse, It Begins

King Follett Discourse, It Begins

King Follett died in 1844 when a bucket of rocks fell on his head while he was helping dig a well. Joseph Smith spoke at his funeral, for hours, and 4+ people wrote notes of his speech. Let’s read it!

 

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FBM 7: Reign of Judges – Title of Liberty

February 23, 2019

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NCR 8: Two repeats and an arson attempt

NCR 8: Two repeats and an arson attempt

We’ve heard the first two before! The second one is a treasure trove of little-heard stories.

 

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The death of Alvin Smith

Joseph Smith’s feelings on doctors, April 1843

Mormon Political Involvement in Ohio

 

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February 2, 2019

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NCR 5: Enochian, Paper, and $$$

NCR 5: Enochian, Paper, and $$$

Maybe Joseph was trying to speak Enochian? He definitely was having money problems.

 

Sample of Pure Language

Printing press page purchases

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January 12, 2019

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Non-Canon Revelation 2: Early 1830 – Go to Canada

Non-Canon Revelation 2: Early 1830 – Go to Canada

Joseph Smith commands his inner circle to take his not-yet-published Book of Mormon and sell the copyright up in Canada. That copyright was never sold, so this revelation was never printed.

 

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January 5, 2019

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Non-Canon Revelation 1: June 1829

Non-Canon Revelation 1: June 1829

Welcome apostates back into the church, because YOU could be the reason they rededicate themselves to the faith. Sidney Rigdon writes Oliver Cowdery out of history with a few scribbles of his greedy little pen.

 

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December 22, 2018

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The Comments Section

The Comments Section

We all need a break from theology, eh? Here’s a sampling of feedback we’ve gotten in the comments section, Facebook, and email.

 

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December 15, 2018

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Lectures on Faith: Section 7, Part 2

Lectures on Faith: Section 7, Part 2

Sidney Rigdon asserts that sufficient faith can do all things, while also making some deeply offensive statements about child mortality.

Final grade of the Lectures on Faith: D–

Drink count – enough to get you through this

 

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December 8, 2018

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Lectures on Faith: Section 7, Part 1

Lectures on Faith: Section 7, Part 1

The episode that straw-mans itself. Faith is the true principle of theology, the gasoline that powers the universe, the source of all truth.

 

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December 1, 2018

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Lectures on Faith: Section 6

Lectures on Faith: Section 6

You’ll know you’re in the right path when you know you’re following God’s will, but this won’t tell you specifically how to know you know. Definitely be a martyr for your god. Does it matter if other people are injured or killed because you won’t deny your god? Nope! Their needs don’t matter, only you not denying a god you probably aren’t entirely certain if you’re following correctly.

This gets real dark, real quick.

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November 17, 2018

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Lectures on Faith: Section 4

Lectures on Faith: Section 4

Knowledge, faith/power, justice, judgement, mercy, truth. By a little reflection it will be seen, that the idea of the existence of these attributes in the Deity, is necessary to enable any rational being to exercise faith in him.

Yeah. Sure. Let’s go with that.

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November 10, 2018

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Lectures on Faith: Section 3, Part 2

Lectures on Faith: Section 3, Part 2

In which we figure out that the Q&A was probably a quick-reference guide for anyone teaching this. You should absolutely read Romans 16, it’s glorious.

Romans Chapter 16, KJV

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November 3, 2018

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Lectures on Faith: Section 3, Part 1

Lectures on Faith: Section 3, Part 1

God is unchanging. Rational people know it, intelligent people know it, faithful people know it. Or maybe God changes all the time, as evidenced by The Bible, the Book of Mormon, and the D&C.

 

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