Episode 3: Nephi 6-11

April 15, 2014


Click to Listen: Episode 3: Nephi 6-11

Nephi and his bros get some lady friends who “somehow” find a way to end their inter-family rivalry.  But that happiness is short lived as Lehi takes his wacky dreams to a whole new level.  Soon after, Nephi wants in on all the dreaming action… will God grant his wish?

Drinking Game count (this will make sense after Episode 9, basically, drink after ever “Yea” and “It came to pass”)

“Drink” Count – 72

12 Beers!!


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10 Comments on “Episode 3: Nephi 6-11”

  1. Steve Says:

    Fun fact about Lehi’s trippy dream, its actually taken almost word for word straight from a dream that Joseph Smith’s dad had one time. Check it out: http://www.centerplace.org/history/misc/jsp.htm#14 (the block quote at the very end of chapter 14)


  2. John Ashton Says:

    Or there’s also the possibility that The Lord showed the same dream to Joseph Smith Senior in anticpation of the translation by his son.


    • scottieslg Says:

      Indeed. This makes MUCH more sense… 🙄


      • John Says:

        Maybe you’re right. Just because God The Father and His Son Jesus Christ visited Joseph Smith in answer to his prayers doesn’t necessarily mean they have the power to cross space and time, and deliver similar dreams and representations to more than one person if they wanted to.


  3. Tina Says:

    BTW, the “iron rod = word of God” is equal to “the iron rod = the holy scriptures” in Mormon parlance. Some people will even refer to the Book of Mormon as “the iron rod” bc that phrase is synonymous with “the word of God as written in scripture.”


  4. Jesus Shuttlesworth Says:

    You repeatedly insinuate that there might have been something sexual about how Laman et al were persuaded not to kill Nephi. I imagine it’s mostly non-serious, but it’s actually pretty clear from the text that it wasn’t sexual. It’s not “somehow” like you joke in the description. It says they (including one of the sons of Ishmael) plead with them. It doesn’t even hint that there was anything else involved. “one of the daughters of Ishmael, yea, and also her mother, and one of the sons of Ishmael, did plead with my brethren, insomuch that they did soften their hearts;”


  5. ToddT Says:

    At the beginning of this episode you mention that Nephi loves spoilers. Good point!

    It’s noteworthy to mention that the books at the BEGINNING of the Book of Mormon from 1 Nephi all the way to Words or Mormon were actually “translated” LAST. Joseph started the translation at Mosiah chapter 1 after he lost the original 116 pages of the Book of Lehi. After completing the “translation” of the book of Moroni, Joseph came back to the beginning to “translate” the record of Nephi all the way up to the reign of King Benjamin in the book of Mosiah.

    So yeah, there were lots of spoilers in the first two books of Nephi. Mainly because Joseph, umm I mean Nephi already knew how it ended. 😉

    You can read more about the translation timeline here: http://www.eldenwatson.net/BoM.htm


  6. MeL Says:

    The Iron Rod is the Word of God ♬♪ : Book of Morm…: http://youtu.be/h3PUOXoSb5Q

    We even have a song about it!


  7. Allen Manning Says:

    Hahaha, if I ever read the Book of Mormon again (highly doubtful, I read it 7 times already as a TBM youth, now I’m postmo as of Feb 24, 2014) I will always picture the wild kinky ways Ishmael’s wife, daughter, and son must have used to soften the brother’s hearts to the extent from wanting to kill Nephi, to practically worshipping him!!

    Keep up the good work. I first heard of this when I showed up to John Dehlin’s interview with you in Salt Lake because a friend wanted a ride, so I took him. Holy smokes this is awesome, and I love participating with beer in hand waiting for the call to drink!!

    This is glorious, it’s helping me heal from the bitterness, and gives me a chance to laugh at all the ridiculous brainwashing, stress, and self loathing that 25 years of being raised in the church put on me.

    At risk of being too personal, I’ll share a bit of my experience as a member. All young men are taught it is their duty, and expected to serve a 2-year self-paid mission for the church. To put added pressure, the women are taught they should have the standard of only marrying worthy priesthood holders who have honourably served a full-time mission. Like most people, I masturbated, which the church considers a sexual sin. Sexual sins are so serious in evilness, the only thing worse is murder. Coupled with that, I came to admit I am bisexual, which brought a bunch of other issues to the situation.

    I started masturbating at 6 years old, found out it was evil at 14, and spent the next 11 years meeting with the bishop almost weekly trying to kick this horribly evil addiction. It was so f@#$ed up, he even sent me to professional group and individual therapies, which I had to pay for myself. Zero financial help from the church, or my parents. I spent an average of 150 bucks a week for almost 4 years because i just couldn’t keep my hands off myself.

    Much of that 11 years I was super depressed, hated my existence, and attempted suicide several times because I knew I would never find someone willing to settle for such an evil person as me for a husband.

    Anyway, I was never “worthy” and once I hit 25 years old, I became to old to apply to serve a mission and just gave up. I went inactive, and shut myself of from the world. Luckily I had a great friend help pull me out of my funk enough I decided to try again. “If I’m gonna be part of this church, I’m gonna know everything about it and live it 100%”

    I began to study, and upon finding the book of Abraham was complete bonkus, it hit me the book of Mormon, and the whole church might be bunkus as well. The incredible relief I felt when it finally hit me this is all made up, i don’t believe it, and now I don’t have to be subject to this organization anymore, is indescribable.

    I’m now 27, and in the best happiest free-est state ever of my life. It’s been quite the ride discovering how to make my own choices, learn to trust myself, and allowing myself to love and embrace who I am. In the church I was a horribly judgmental bigot towards myself and everyone else, and I am enjoying now my new-found way of living and thinking.

    Since my chances of being a Mormon God are now shot, I will proudly become a patron “Mymo God” and help support the Taylor scholarship so people can receive some much needed help as they transition from Mormonism.

    Keep up the good work, and I look forward to listening to the Book of Mormon with new perspective, allowing myself to laugh at the craziness of the rest of my life, and then catching up to where you are at with the other books.



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